Feeding the H&S system vs learning about work If an organisation has a truely embedded safety culture, then the H&S practitioner should be just one of the people that should be mixing with workers and learning about work. If the job of H&S is left to the H&S team (and therefore understanding how work is actual done) then there is a great chance that the management team are not engaging with employees and that safety is not everyone's responsibility but the responsibility of the H&S department. in my humble opinion, the H&S team need to support the rest of the organisation and not do the work for them. If feeding the system takes up so much of the practitioner's time then it may be time to review the system. Supporting and engaging with the management team, as well as the workers, will lead to a more embedded approach, encourage ownership at at levels and ensuring that work really is safe (and not just because there is a monster of a system!)